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Letter: Glover Lane route is wrong for West Davis corridor
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Editor,

I am highly concerned about building a freeway west of Glover Lane in Farmington for safety, fiscal and community reasons. I live within a mile of Glover Lane, which is adjacent to Farmington Bay. The concerns I have about building west of Glover Lane are threefold:

First, it is a safety hazard. During the winter in Farmington it can be very hazardous driving on the existing freeways because there is low level, dense fog in our neighborhood. Combined with the freezing rain we experienced this year, freeway travel can become deadly, as evidenced by the fatalities we had near Park Lane. During the morning of the freezing rain when there were hundreds of accidents, I turned my vehicle back around and did not venture on the freeway. I saw nine cars abandoned on the Park Lane overpass and two semi trucks that had skidded off the I-15 on ramp. Even with traction control, my car was skidding although I drove way below the speed limit. Considering these winter conditions in Farmington it would be reckless of UDOT to even consider building another freeway near Farmington. The existing roads were not cleared or salted in time. Adding more roads and overpasses will only make it more deadly. The further west that one travels in Farmington, the more wet and foggy conditions occur. UDOT would be building a death trap.

Second, it is a waste of taxpayer money to have invested in Legacy Parkway, and already having made a connection to it, to go toward Shephard Lane only to abandon it. We have enough fiscal waste. I can think of much more important things in which to spend my tax dollars. UDOT should continue with the original plans of Shephard Lane, especially since new homeowners signed documents with the understanding that a larger road would be built by their homes and community.

Third, new homeowners by Glovers Lane were blind-sided by UDOT when they decided to look at Glovers Lane instead because of heavy lobbying by the Shephard Lane community. This is not a valid excuse for wasting taxpayer money. My wish would be that there be NO road built. However, UDOT has emphasized that a road will be built. So, my answer to that is, stop wasting our time and taxpayer money and start building where it was originally intended.

By building mass freeways and overpasses in a city that has limited square footage, Farmington has a potential to “disappear” from the landscape and turn into a transit hub. 

UDOT cannot in good conscience, build the West Corridor near Glovers Lane, nor in Farmington at all.

Respectfully,

Barbara Stevens

Farmington

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clipperfan
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June 01, 2013
Protest the West Davis Corridor and suggest alternate solutions that improve our air quality and encourage smarter transportation options. There is a public hearing on June 11th starting at 6:00 p.m. at the Legacy Events Center in Farmington. You will have an opportunity to give comments to a court reporter and ask questions for up to 3 minutes. UDOT HAS to respond to every question and comment. Make them specific and make as many as you want in 3 minutes time. Ask questions about pollution and environmental studies, ask about the process of how numbers were changed on cost estimations... do your research and ask thorough questions...
Funtus
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May 25, 2013
mathnerd:

Why do people from North Davis and Weber Counties need to drive to the Farmington FrontRunner station to take the train to Salt Lake? Aren't there FrontRunner stations in multiple locations between Farmington and Ogden? Sounds like you really subscribe to Mayor Harbertson's dilusion that commuters from Davis and Weber counties want to stop off at Farmington Station for a movie and some shopping at HomeGoods before heading into work.
mathnerd
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May 25, 2013
Funtus, what you fail to realize is that people travel both north and south. That's the whole idea of "commuting". I believe that Frontrunner is a valuable resourse for people traveling north from Salt Lake as well as for those traveling south from locations such as Ogden.

Farmington Station is indeed a valuable location, not simply because of the business development that is located there, but because believe it or not, there are people who live in Farmington or nearby that are served well by being able access Frontrunner from that location.

I don't think it's hard to understand that anyone using Frontrunner from the Farmington Station location WOULD NOT therefore be using the new proposed West Davis Freeway, since the two are disparate.

It's a matter of connecting the dots.
clipperfan
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May 24, 2013
ALL Utah Residents against the West Davis Corridor being built, (not just Farmington residents), please go to this fb page, like it, and make comments. Let's work TOGETHER to create transportation solutions that are sustainable, safe, fiscally conservative, serve our communities, and environmentally friendly for ALL residents! Thank you, Barbara Stevens

(copy and past the URL in your browser)

https://www.facebook.com/SaveNorthernUtahFromTheWestDavisCorridor

mathnerd
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May 24, 2013
People need to get educated about the Wasatch Choice for 2040. Guiding principles for transportation and development throughout Utah. The Wasatch Front Regional Council helped develop these guidelines. The proposed West Davis Freeway completely ignores these guidelines!

http://www.wasatchchoice2040.com/the-vision/principles/

And the IS a smarter solution! Miles and miles of more freeway is NOT a smart solution to our transportation needs! Smarter, more innovative solutions are out there. UDOT's just stuck in the stone-age and they can't think outside the box. But it's time they looked at other solutions. Maybe UDOT should hire Utahns For Better Transportation because they are coming up with SMART solutions!

http://www.utahnsforbettertransportation.org/documents/2013april22.html
clipperfan
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May 25, 2013
Thank you, mathnerd. I have started to look at this. I had NO IDEA that UDOT is required by FEDERAL LAW to look at the Least Environmentally Damaging Practical Alternative in looking at viable transportation planning. They have not seriously considered a shared solution which would NOT include building by wetlands! What are they thinking??? Even though Kaysville feels like they have won the lottery in not having Shephard Lane as UDOT's recommendation, they don't realize how the levels of pollution from both car emissions AND inversions will do to their health. There are no winners here except UDOT. UDOT employees will have their pockets lined no matter the outcome. THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVES and these alternatives will HAVE to be considered by UDOT. But, they have used the divide and conquer technique hoping that people will roll over and allow this freeway to come into their neighborhoods. Unfortunately, they have partially succeeded. Hopefully the Syracuse community will work with the Farmington community if Kaysville will not. But, it would be better if we could ALL come together. Our children will be breathing in this poison if not....
residentofutah
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May 24, 2013
UDOT has had Glovers as an option on their plan for a long time, and Farmington City even had it as part of their master plan, so Glovers people shouldn't be blindsided.

Some people did sign a paper, some didn't. However, we also signed something saying that an earthquake could happen in our area, not really something that is probable. We were also provided something that said UDOT will never build a road wider than the preserved corridor - 140 feet. And, truthfully, it is all buried in about 150 pages that have to be signed. The bottom line is that NO ONE expected a freeway to go through here - NO ONE. And, I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that new homeowners by Glovers have also been signing something similar, since homebuilders are required to disclose everything. Do you realize how these neighborhoods up here would be absolutely destroyed if the freeway came RIGHT thru the MIDDLE here? On Glovers it goes on the outside of all neighborhoods, including ours. In other words, we're still affected, just like you are, but we're not DESTROYED.
clipperfan
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May 24, 2013
I don't know anyone who signed a paper in Farmington. I would not have purchased my home if I had been given a letter like that to sign. As I said in my letter, my first preference is that NO road is built. UDOT may be going on the outside of neighborhoods as they "say", but it is only 15 FEET (not blocks) from people's homes. When Utah can't seem to control the worst air quality in the nation, it is criminal to build a road at all. UDOT has been successful in pitting neighbor against neighbor in this battle, and that is also unfortunate when we all stand to lose here. Illness from pollution will not choose sides. It will affect us all.
Ilikebirds
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May 24, 2013
I have a hard time believing that NO ONE thought that a road would be coming through your neighborhood. When we built our home we first looked at the Hunters Creek area. This was in 2007. we looked at Woodside, Destination and Richmond 2 of the 3 informed us of the possible freeway and gave us a paper with the options on it. This was in our initial tour of the model home. I can't imagine going through the entire purchase process without mention of it. Two other couples we know also were looking and got the same info. One decided to purchase there and the other didn't. So there are at least SOME people. This is not just a Glovers issue. There are dozens of homes in the Ranches that are going to be closely impacted. Not to mention a potential on/off ramp that could go up Clark Lane. This would not only divide AND destroy our neighborhood, but it would be running directly in front of our school, on a very narrow road.
clipperfan
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May 24, 2013
Resident of Utah, The best solution in my mind is one in which no road is built and UDOT works with the community, not against it. From a previous Clipper article, "A representative of SaveFarmington, a citizens group that opposes the corridor, told reporters that UDOT needs to consider and adopt guidelines set by Wasatch Choice for 2040, a visioning process for growth and development conducted by Wasatch Front Regional Council, Mountainland Association of Governments and Envision Utah.

“Wasatch Choice for 2040 basically outlines protocol for building roadways,” Lori Kalt with SaveFarmington told reporters at Tuesday’s protest. “Things like the roads should foster a robust economy, lead to improved quality of life, preserve and promote conservation of the environment and conserve critical lands and natural resources,” she said.

“The roads should help reduce travel time to and from work, connect to trains and other modes of transportation and generally the roads should lead to improved quality of life. The highway UDOT is planning through Farmington will do none of these,” she said."

Glovers Lane is no option. Citizens should work together to stop UDOT from its agenda.
Ilikebirds
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May 24, 2013
*edit freeway, not road. Even back then, we were made aware that nobody knew for sure in what capacity this road/freeway would carry.
biketrails
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May 25, 2013
Residentofutah,

I was actually at a meeting last month where the mayor personally told us that the Shepard's Lane option is the option on the city plan for BOTH Farmington AND Kaysville. Glover's Lane was NOT the plan!!!!!

The homes that are to be taken out because of the Shepard Lane option SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN BUILT.

Unfortunately, UDOT is not reporting all the homes the Glover's Lane option will end condemning because they are not within 15 feet of the road current road plan. I know of at least 5 people who have personally met with a UDOT representative in their home and been told that they would condemn their homes if the Glover's Lane option was chosen. Of course these costs are not accounted for in the EIS.

Looks to me UDOT just wants to make their numbers look good, not what the actual cost will be.
Ilikebirds
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May 23, 2013
Yes, we would love UDOT to account for the 200 million dollar disparity(2011 to recent). Did they wave a magical finance wand? It just all looks a little shady and convenient. There's gotta be a fancy Crisis Manager from a swanky PR firm on UDOT''s bankroll who's getting away with some foolery!
Funtus
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May 23, 2013
Barbara, I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here. Based on your comment about Glover's Lane being "a waste of taxpayer dollars" you clearly haven't read the Draft EIS. Section 2.3.2 (Table 2-21) of the DEIS clearly states that Alternative B1 (Glover's Lane) is the least expensive of all the options considered. UDOT has clearly covered all of the bases in this study based on the sheer volume of information the DEIS contains. It's pretty hard to argue with numbers.

Personally I am glad that UDOT is trying to be fiscally responsible by choosing the least expensive option as the Preferred Alternative. In addition, Preferred Alternative B1 meets the purpose and need of the WDC better than any other option, displaces less people, and would not require the relocation of FrontRunner and Union Pacific rail lines (read Section 4.2 for additional details).
govskeptic
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May 23, 2013
Dear fungus,

We've all poured over the draft EIS ad nauseum and I am certainly glad that UDOT has amassed a following of 'useful idiots' like yourself to help carry their water. Patriots question whether precious government resources need be squandered and the highest and best use of said resources. UDOT has yet to account for the fact they are double counting the bridge at Shepard lane. The demolition and construction of the bridge was already planned in UDOTs long term plan and should not have been counted as a cost in the EIS. Shall I continue? Do you honestly believe that building an additional 4 miles of freeway at 100 million a mile would be less expensive? UDOT will be inundated with lawsuits for the sierra club et. al. for destroying habitat noise pollution etc... Do you remember Legacy? Do you remember the $1 million per day wasted while the machines sat idle and nothing was being done. It was and is blindly complicit morons that got us into the fiscal mess we are in. Please don't join them by believing in an altruistic government. I for one call BS on UDOTs numbers. The burden of proof rests on them to answer all these questions. Let's all be more skeptical, or we will continue spending money we don't have, and put the burden on our kids.
clipperfan
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May 23, 2013
UDOT has not been transparent with the public and Farmington residents are skeptical of the numbers that UDOT changed when their first study showed Glovers Lane to be the more expensive option. They will not answer Farmington residents questions as per the Tribune article. The Glovers Lane option has a footprint that is 3-4 times longer. "It's pretty hard to argue with numbers." http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsopenrecords/56213029-222/group-meeting-davis-kalt.html.csp
mathnerd
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May 24, 2013
Dear Funtus,

While it is true that UDOT has declared the Glover Lane option to be less expensive, what you probably don't realize is that they have unfairly (and perhaps illegally) elevated the cost of the Shepard Lane option by including the cost of the Shepard Lane interchange in that cost estimate. The Shepard lane interchange will happen either which way, and for for some weird reason (that UDOT refuses to explain)they have decided to include that cost in the Shepard Lane option. My assertion is that they have included the cost in the Shepard Lane option so as to make it appear more expensive than the Glover Lane option.

I have personally asked them about this issue and even put it in writing to them. They said "hmm . . . we'll look into that" but never did.

You see, it is easy to make things look however you want to on paper. And that's exactly what UDOT's done.

So I would refute your assertion that UDOT is fiscally responsible. And to add to that, I would say that they have spent approximately $300 million to do a "design-build" of the last 3 miles of Legacy Highway! And now they are going to back-track and reroute traffic away from Frontrunner and out and around Farmington! That's not fiscally responsible in the least! That's a waste of $300 million of our own hard-earned money! We should all be demanding to Governor Herbert that he stop this waste of our money!!!

mathnerd
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May 24, 2013
And anyone who knows transportation knows that NOBODY wants to fight with the railroads! So if I'm UDOT and I've got the owners of the Buffalo Ranch calling me every six months (and I'm quoting from UDOT here) asking me if I want to buy their 300 acres . . . or I've got the option of building a road in a place which would require me to fight with the railroad company . . . hmmm. . . I'd probably choose the Buffalo Ranch. Much less hassle.

Not surprisingly, that's exactly what UDOT did. I wonder why?
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